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ct the Lord Buddha but the people have to make wrong way such produce the Buddha for selling. Like the merchandise. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Can you translate this ? Are the people here not making a Buddha of him? ĹčŇÁ : All people here-you mean all the disciples, all the followers? šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Yes, all the disciples, are they not making a Buddha of him ? ĹčŇÁ : Making. Buddha for him or what? šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No! They are all bowing to him, instead of the big image. ĹčŇÁ : No, no, no, Everywhere we respect the Buddha to build much more of the Buddha. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I was asking, if the people make not the Buddha of you. He becomes the Buddha. ĹčŇÁ : Who becomes the Buddha? šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Phra Bhodhirak. There is no Buddha image but the Buddha image is Phra Bhodhirak. ĹčŇÁ : You think like that. (šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Yes) And you would like to ask every people. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Why he allow people to respect him ? Because it's the same thing, whether you respect the bigger image or Phra Bhodhirak. It's the same thing. ĹčŇÁ : You think like that. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : As a Farang, I think like that. ĹčŇÁ : You think like that. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : They not make a god of you. ĹčŇÁ : No. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No, no danger. äÁčÁŐÍŃšľĂŇ sure äÁčÁŐ sure äÁčÁŐ I don't know god. ĹčŇÁ : Just respect him but don't compare with the Lord Buddha not like that. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : There is not another kind of superstition? I see they bring the baby to him also. ĹčŇÁ : What? šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I see some man. He brings a baby to ĹčŇÁ : Just come to respect him šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No, superstition. ĹčŇÁ : No superstition. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I read in the newspaper that you somebody in the religious department, some big boss the religious department he was angry at you because you speak "Attama". He says, what is that he speaks "Attama" . Why speak not " me" ," I " ? What is the meaning of "Attama"? ĹčŇÁ : "Attama" mean "I" but for the people who are monks. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : The people who are monks. ĹčŇÁ : It's the really the monk use for the people for you ...for our people. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Oh yes, Is there any meaning in that ? ĹčŇÁ : No Meaning also because meaning for... šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I want to ask Phra Bhodhirak if there's a meaning. ĹčŇÁ : He's still monk as dhamma vinaya. You know.. In the Buddhist discipline he's still really a monk. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Oh! yes. ĹčŇÁ : That's why he can use "Attama" you know. Attama only for the monk but for him, he's not defrock from monk, yet. But the other side just blame him, accuse him he already defrock, why he use the word Attama. ݚѥ˘čŇÇ : Isn't it the same meaning like in India. In India, they say "Attama". ĹčŇÁ : The same. The same Attama. You know, Sanskrit, Pali, Indian, and also Cambodian, some words are the same. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I understand. Another thing I'm reading in the newspaper is that Phra Bhodhirak said he is enlightened, what is the word in Thai for “enlighten”? ĹčŇÁ : Enlighten şĂĂĹŘ şĂĂĹظĂĂÁ šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : şĂĂĹظAs It is true that you said you şĂĂĹظĂĂÁ Yes? Why do you say that? ˇÓäÁ ĹčŇÁ : He said that because the Buddhist now not believe have some people attain enlightenment. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I know. Only the Buddha. But you say you have what is the name in Thai (ĹčŇÁ:şĂĂĹظĂĂÁ) şĂĂĹظĂĂÁ How do you know you şĂĂĹظĂĂ ? ĹčŇÁ : He knows by himself, He must know that by himself because he practices. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : How can you know that? ĹčŇÁ : He said he had sentiment in his mind to know all that. He's sentiment in his mind... šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Since how many years? ĹčŇÁ : Before he became a monk. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Before he became a monk. How did it happen ? ÝĹčŇÁ : He practices Buddhism. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I would like to ask him. How did it happen? ĹčŇÁ : When you really practicing It happened. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : It came from the practice of Buddhist. ĹčŇÁ : That's right. And he knows by himself. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : But before you were a monk. He was not yet a monk. ĹčŇÁ : Not yet. It means he just refers to a time before. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : What did you do when they put you in prison? When they put you in prison, what did you do for 2 days? ĹčŇÁ : They said he practice wrong Buddhist discipline and also. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Wrong discipline , in the prison. ĹčŇÁ : His accusation said Phra Bhodhirak is wrong for practising, you know, the Buddhist discipline. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No. You don't understand the question. ĹčŇÁ : And then they just ask him to defrock. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I know, I know. ĹčŇÁ : Within 7 days. To defrock within 7 days. And then Phra Bodhirak did not accept to defrock that's why... šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I know, that's why they lock him for 2 days. ŕĘŐ§ : Sit and walk. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : You are worried ? ŕĘŐ§ : No problem šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : This is why you enlighten. And what happened to all the monks now. They will cause problems for other people. They're afraid of you. ĹčŇÁ : He says he doesn't know. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I think they're afraid of you because you are dangerous. ĹčŇÁ : Right now we have more than 80 monks Asoke monk. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No. But I mean the normal Sangka is afraid of him. He has too much success...what will happen to them ? They cannot sell...amulet anymore, they can not go to the open bars and banks and all that. O.K. Thank you very much.

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šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Are you all day like this ? Available to people or do you need to be alone some time also. You're available all day to people ? You don't need to be alone. You don't feel oppressed by all these people around you all the time. Ý : Do you teach meditation? Are you initiating people to meditation? Do you initiate people to meditation? Are you showing people how to meditate? No yoga. No Raja Yoga. ĹčŇÁ : No. In English we call it the Eightfold Path. Eightfold Path, it means you know, right view, right speak, right action, right livelihood, right effort. And the eighth one is the right concentration. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : No technique of breathing. ĹčŇÁ : NO, no. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Sri Lanka ? äÁčăŞč Buddhist. ĹčŇÁ : He follows eight fold Path. That is the very principle of Buddhist teaching. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Do you know Achan Sulak Siwalak? What do you think about his view of social Buddhism? Is it good? Social Buddhism Dhammic Dhammic socialism?...He writes a lot about social Buddhism. ĹčŇÁ : Who ? šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Sulak Siwalak. Yes, it is the origin is Buddhadasa but Achan Sulak writes and every country speaks the same. He speaks the same. Buddhadasa , you know? ĹčŇÁ : Buddhadasa, sure he went almost every year to respect about his birthday. ĹčŇÁ : You went there. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : I will go there now. ĹčŇÁ : Oh! you will go. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Thank you very much. I can't live like him. Impossible I'm here, not here. Impossible, but he's happy, O.K. ĹčŇÁ : He's happy. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Sure. ĹčŇÁ : He's all time. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : Sure, I can see. No problem. Let the police do the stupid thing, He does the right thing. This is how I feel about it. Thank you very much. No special miracle preserved him. No. special power preserving him. ĹčŇÁ : No . No, special power. No, power. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : O.K. Can you ask Phra Bhodhirak he allows us to come and visit him one day in Bangkapi? ĹčŇÁ : You better to go on Sunday. šŃĄ˘čŇÇ : On Sunday O.K. O.K. Thank you.

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